Friday, November 19, 2010

Becoming vegan when my parents won't cooperate!?

I have been eating vegan like 3-4 days a week (gave up dairy and eggs for medical reasons, never liked red meat or seafood), but I want to go 'fully vegan' and give up white meat. Problem is, my parents think meat is the only source of protein, even though I have shown and explained to them that you can get PLENTY of protein with soy milk, tofu, whole grains, beans, etc. Also, I'm still a teenager and living at home, so I have to eat what they cook, which often includes pork, chicken, turkey, etc. Also, they think me wanting to become vegan is just me being a picky eater, when really I want to do it for health/moral reasons! I've explained to them that it is healthier, better for animals, and the Earth, but they still aren't listening! How can I become fully vegan if my parents won't listen?Becoming vegan when my parents won't cooperate!?
You could kill your parents and eat them!





Becoming vegan when my parents won't cooperate!?



Good. I shouldn't think so. They care about you (your health) more than the misguided/deluded people on this forum (and you by the sounds of it).



'I have a legitimate question here and I would appreciate it if people took it seriously.'



Does this sound serious enough for you? You have been taken seriously; more seriously than you will likely understand (right now). Why should you get my time and attention and my 'seriousness'? So consider this: would you appreciate/respect it if I merely told you what you wanted to here (merely bleating/repeating more nonsense and propaganda regardless of Reality/consequences)? What would that imply about my sincerity or honesty? Or even my respect for your own intelligence?



Vegetarianism is not big, clever, cool, sane, sexy, spiritual, or even interesting, nor will it get you any special attention or backstage passes at concerts.



Opinion (belief) and truth do not constitute the same thing. You have (I presume) heard of a thing called Science? You can change/modify/adopt/discard a belief as you will, but objective Truth will not alter whether you like it or not.



Vegetarianism has no health/medical/environmental benefits whatsoever. It exists as a dangerous and harmful fantasy - especially to young people, especially girls (and those promoting it should feel ashamed of themselves - especially if promoting it to children/adolescents). These people have become dangerous (to themselves and others), incomplete and have not become wise (and worse, they do not know it and rarely care/know how to analyse/check/question such faulty beLIEfs rationally and thus self-correct like a genuine real scientist would). Yet they brazenly conduct the most perverse long-term experiments on themselves (and encourage others to do the same with a wild abandon all without 'earning' any real foundation upon which to base such decisions/opinions). Such people have proven themselves incapable of recognising Reality. You have been conned (by yourself especially). Do you still think that you possibly could have accurately worked this out? Do you really care to find out? Vege-types typically see only what they want to see.



No, vegetarianism is not a solution; it's a problem.



As vegetarianism constitutes a seriously unhealthy, harmful and (the most) unnatural diet (for a human), veganism propels the victim into a whole new and novel vista of hitherto unsuspected stupidity and self-destruction.



For your own sake why perpetuate a dumb and reckless decision based on incorrect/irrational/emotional/religious notions of (what you may feel is) morality or the laughable/dangerous make-beLIEve pseudo-scientific twaddle the vege-types hope to pass off as valid nutritional science... people rarely do what they do for the reason(s) they think they do (a vegetarian self-evidently hasn't a clue). Instead, does it not make sense to make a rational decision based on valid objective medical science (and no vegetarian or vege-website/book/magazine will help you find this out* - for obvious reasons)?



If you care about animal welfare (and rightly so) then choose meat/raw dairy/eggs (all of which constitute the most healthy and nutrient dense foods available) from animals which have been well looked after and properly raised, fed naturally and organically and then, suitably slaughtered (thus no cruelty involved anywhere); ideally from local small independent farms.



Is it ok for anyone to become a vegetarian? Yes, of course, anyone can do whatever they want (so long as they don't hurt me or my property) especially if they accept the consequences of their actions and do so with a prior full understanding of Reality. Is it ok for you to behave as a vegetarian/vegan? Yes, of course, absolutely... if you want to hurt yourself.



Simply ask yourself, why would you willingly self-sacrifice yourself (through destructive and silly dietary habits that will only do you harm) in order to feel 'good' about yourself? Take a deep breath. This is funny!



Alternative to acting sensibly and rationally: - move out and do whatever you want.Becoming vegan when my parents won't cooperate!?
The only thing you can do is calmly explain to them why you want to do this. Because you're not an adult, you do need to listen to your parents; they have control over your life. (I know this, trust me) But as I was saying, you'll need to be persistent. If your family is having pork, just don't eat any and don't get upset if they question you as to why. You'll need to tell them what your reasons are and how strongly you feel about this.
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Be Yourself, and if that means eating no meat, or anything which comes from an animal, go for it.

How can you forget a mothers milk though, or the fact that lions kill for food to survive?

If you feel so set to live off of plants, you are still killing the branch your meal came from.



Trees have no CRY, no voice, plants in general, are deep beings, and you find it cool to cut them to nourish yourself, but can't see doing it to a Cow?



I would love to say that all the pain will go away, that no death happens, but it does, and will forever, that's our ability, to know, and while you wish not to eat off of the cattle who where born into this life, some people (most) know that it keeps us alive.

You tell me a purpose for a cow?

What do they do for mankind, for the world, it's a fact that they deplete the ozone, so you tell me?



Good luck, and just start cooking Vegan for your parents, cause you are in charge of the kitchen?
buy the book Slaughter House by Gail A Eisnitz and give it to your parents to read, it might help them to take you seriously, best of luck
That's a tough one. You say you have shown and explained but cite no source so I include some sources that have been useful to me. Perhaps another try?

I have been vegan for a year now. When I started I got two books that were great.

Rip Esselstyn is a vegan fireman who converted his whole shift to the diet (engine2diet.com).

jae steele, a nutritionist, had recently brought out her first cookbook ';Get It Ripe'; (arsenalpulp.com 275). I was a recipe tester for her next book, now out, ';Ripe From Around Here'; (arsenalpulp.com 312) and there are some awesome recipes in both.

There are many vegan athletes (bestveganguide.com). I'm sure that if you did a bit of searching you could find vegans in other careers.

I also began to bake my own bread using whole and ancient grains from the local Bulk Barn outlet (there may be a similar store in your area?) The bin labels have the protein content listed and they range from 16 to 20%!.

Even mushrooms have some protein I discovered.

Perhaps you could offer to cook a vegan meal once or twice a week?

I wish you all the best. Don't give up! Eventually you will win them over.

The Buddhists, who are vegetarians for the most part, say that if someone offers you a meal with meat in it, don't make a big fuss but eat a little to be polite.
If you really want to be vegan, you probably will have to start cooking. You can have something as simple as a peanut butter sandwich for lunch or pasta with marinara sauce and a salad for dinner (throw in a few beans if you want more protein).



You don't have to eat what they cook, just because you live at home and are a teenager. You might even have to buy some of your own ingredients, if they won't buy them for you. Just do some extra research on a healthy vegan diet, so your parents can see that you are serious about being healthy.



You just will probably have to take a lot of initiative if you want to make the full change to veganism. People don't like change, so your parents aren't likely to make it easy for you. Either do it part-time if you don't have time to cook or money to buy things, or else do a lot of things for yourself and they will see that you are serious.



You can even cook things the whole family would like, like bean tacos (they can add cheese or leftover chicken to theirs), pasta, salads, etc. Make enough to share and keep explaining what you have learned, and eventually they will understand.
Ask them to give you a month and see how that works out.



You could also try finding a vegan who is eating right to show them that vegans do have a healthy living.
it's not the proteins your body needs it's amino acids that form proteins, there are 20 of them and only meat and eggs contain all of them in sufficient quantity. to get all amino acids from vegetable you need to eat allot of different types of vegetable
It is not always easy being a teenager. You are beginning to realize that you are able to think your own complex thoughts, but are not yet at an age where everyone will listen or accept them. No longer do you simply accept what is told to you, but seek your own answers. Your parents are also probably beginning to realize this. Some parents have a tougher time allowing their children to branch out and begin to become adults.



This is also an age where you need to realize that there are reactions to the actions you take. You may want to give up meat, but that also may mean cooking and buying food for yourself. If you are already eating vegan, then there must be some foods in the house that are not meat. On the other 3-4 days of the week simply cook for yourself. You do not have to eat what they cook, and most parents will not force feed their children. There are many easy recipe cookbooks available.



Perhaps you could sit down with your parents and learn about vegan nutrition together. Explain how important it is for you. Tell them that they have raised you well, and that you are simply doing what all children will do eventually, and that is make decision for yourself. You hope that they will support these choices, and guide you, as you will become a better person through their gentle guidance, rather than force the way you think to coincide with their thoughts.
I really think the vegan diet is not good for you...you really need to eat diverse foods to lead a healthy life. Especially in your teenage years when the body is developing, nutrition is very important

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